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The newest database will ship for Linux in August, but Oracle offers no details on Windows or other versions.

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windowsreefund

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago

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Why is this site advocating the

Why is this site advocating the installation and use of freedom-restricting software?

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kiba

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago

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Someone's Free software projects

Someone's Free software projects need to beat the crap out of Oracle through pure software superiority so Oracle will go out of business and we will never hear from them.

That way, one less freedom-restricting softwares to hear from.

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windowsreefund

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago

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Software superiority is subjective.

Software superiority is subjective. Freedoms 0-3 are either true or false. That said, freedoms 0-3 should always be the bar to measure by and never software superiority.

But my question to the moderators of this site goes unanswered.

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kiba

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago

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You don't get it. Software superiority

You don't get it. Software superiority is a mean to an end. Also quality can be measured. Such as the performance of the software or how efficiently and effective it accomplish a task.

1. Superiority in software quality to lure users!

2. Teaching them the value of Free softwares!

3. Making them Free software advocates.

4. ???

5. Victory for freedom!

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dave

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago

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This site is not advocating anything.

This site is not advocating anything. The article might be, but we are not. A user submitted it, and users voted for it.

I personally voted for it because I think it is an interesting article. And that is because it shows that Oracle are releasing on GNU/Linux first and is offering no other details for when it will be available on other platforms.

Now regardless of whether it is a proprietary piece of software it is clearly interesting to the free software community.

If it wasn't it wouldn't be getting votes.

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dave

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago

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We will only remove/moderate offensive

We will only remove/moderate offensive material, spam, and articles that are completely unrelated to free software. If this article was just about Oracle, which it isn't (it's about Oracle being released on Linux first), then it would have been removed.

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windowsreefund

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago

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Users would not have had an opportunity

Users would not have had an opportunity to vote if they had not been presented with the inappropriate material to begin with.

More and more, I'm getting the sense that this site is no different from LXer.com in that no formal guidelines are set on what content is appropriate and what is not.

Let me be very clear on this in order to eliminate all possibility of confusion or manipulation. From the perspective of the Free Software Movement, there is nothing appropriate, news-worthy, or even noteworthy concerning the installation and/or usage of freedom-restricting software.

Please remove this offensive article and take whatever steps are needed to improve the QA that should be happening on the back end.

Thank you.

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kiba

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago

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Why not bury it? I heard if

Why not bury it?

I heard if you get enough votes, the story might be removed from the frontpage or something. I think I might be wrong though.

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admin

17 years 11 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago

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It is our aim to bring free software

It is our aim to bring free software related news and articles to the free software community. We do so by allowing our users to submit news and articles that a) they think are interesting and b) that are free software related.

If they are not interesting enough, they will not reach the home page. If they are not related to free software, we will remove them.

This article is about proprietary software being released for a free software operating system before being released for proprietary operating systems. That makes it free software related. The article is also interesting because it, hopefully, indicates the beginning of a trend where software developers (regardless of the licences they use) begin to treat free software platforms with more importance.

Please feel free to comment on every article pointing out if some of the software mentioned is proprietary - this will help our readers from being misled by articles that confuse the issue. Also, feel free to point out if an article is completely unrelated to free software - this will help us work out which ones to remove. However, if we determine that a story *is* free software related, then no amount of demanding is going to make us remove it. Instead, you have the ability to "bury" it. If enough people agree with you it will be removed.

I am sorry if you don't like this article but it *is* related to free software. But making one request to remove it is enough to make your point. We aren't going to have the time or the inclination to respond with a comment everytime someone reports an article should not be on the site. If we haven't removed the article it means either we haven't seen your comment yet (give it up to 12hrs at this stage) OR we have seen it and have decided not to remove the article. Any further comments/requests are a waste of your time.

And, one last thing, we are different from Lxer in that the community submits AND promotes the stories. It is not up to one or two potentially biased editors. We do not want to fall into the trap of deciding what people can and can't read on this site... with the exception of spam, abuse, and articles that are unrelated to free software.

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